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is talking about amnesty. >> jon: republicans were against it and accused others of not being against enough. >> i've always been against amnesty. you are or for amnesty. >> you had an op he had in the newspaper saying you were for it. >> jon: your wife has a dressage horse named amnesty. >> yeah in the next debate you won't be able to name three government agencies you would like to close. they talk about amnesty like it's a deviant seal practice. >> what i call backdoor amnesty. [ laughter ] >> jon: we've all applied for immra?ssn onhe use floor i'll donying short of soting them. jon: anyone else? ll bld walled >>0 feet high.ve barbed wie top. it's electrocud electified and a sign on the thl kill you. >> jon: nd the signwill be. [ laughter ] ah! that why the events of this week cme as u>> a major eakthrough onimmigrg tors from bothical paies to agree o a path to nge republicans,erhaps y lood into your hearts and adpele to doing o least gloro work little dignity >> look at the last election we'r losingthe rn.hat's the reason you are supse y've come lon way. you've comethe arch of history t
televised images of amnestied convicts leaving prison as free citizens. the same people he says are responsible for his losing everything he worked so hard for. now he will be in debt for the rest of his life. >> i will tell you quite openly and with some bitterness i'm no friend of amnesty's like this. it is a sweeping amnesty that is not just affect small-time hoods. at least 120 really big fish who have thousands of victims. >> in the late 1990's, he had a house bill. he paid some 100,000 euros but only got a bear shell. the managers took the money out of the construction company and let it go bankrupt. he had to sink another $100,000 into finishing the house. but that was not all. he feels cheated by the bankruptcy trustee who required him to pay another $100,000 to free the house from bankruptcy. that ruined him. >> i have to come up with some 100,000 euros for the house every month. those are the installments i have to pay for another 15 or 20 years with interest on top. so there's no question of retirement. my son supports me, so i can come up with the money. but we might
reform he is talking about amnesty. >> jon: republicans were against it and accused others of not being against enough. >> i've always been against amnesty. you are or for amnesty. >> you had an op he had in the newspaper saying you were for it. >> jon: your wife has a dressage horse named amnesty. >> yeah in the next debate you won't be able to name three government agencies you would like to close. they talk about amnesty like it's a deviant seal practice. >> what i call backdoor amnesty. [ laughter ] >> jon: we've all applied for that. [ laughter ] no amnesty, fine. what would you do about immigration? >> as your congressman on the house floor i'll do anything short of shooting them. >> jon: anyone else? [ laughter ] >> i will build a double walled fence. >> 20 feet high. gonna have barbed wire on the top. it's going to be electrocuted -- electified and a sign on the other side that says it will kill you. >> jon: and the sign will be in english. [ laughter ] ah! that's why the events of this week came as such a surprise. >> a major breakthrough on immigration reform leading senators
don't come into the country illegally. the risk of an amnesty that is basically all that we are talking about unfortunately is amnesty. every amnesty in the past weather in europe or in then united states has had the effect of attracting more people in the country illegally in the hopes of a future amnesty. lou: years ago i started talking about a rational, humane immigration policy that would take intocy account all of the concerns about displacement of those who re in this country illelly, a due process make a determination of how work permitand legal status occurred. that is not enough.th the activist groups in this country t insist upon one thing, it is remarkable demand in my eyes, they insist upon amnesty and this president is insisting upon amnesty. what is your reaction? >> what i worry about most is not amnesty, but incredibly successful campaign toma stigmatize any immigration enforcementti whatsoever.ha when you have opposition across the country to a program called secure communities which says if you have committed a crime and you enter a jail, the jlsh authorit
say it's amnesty and multiply. also ahead, green energy bubble. has the bubble already burst? and the wall street pros call it dumb money. small investors. are we about to get burned once again? "the willis report" is on the case. all of that and more coming up. but first, to our top story. immigration reform. or is it amnesty? bipartisan senators reviewing their plan for immigration reform. critics are wondering if this path to citizenship for the 11 million immigrants in the united states is actually a fast-track umc. what more can we have chris stirewalt,. >> welcome as always, it's in the details. that's what counts. in 2,702,000 page bill. it just tells me that that is a very convenient pretext. gerri: we will have a lot of debate on us. taking a look at this list, you have to verify everything that happens. enforce new hiring procedures, a farm worker program and better tracking of defense. will the president accept this? he is announcing his plan tomorrow, or will he insist on his own list of priorities when it comes to immigration? >> what we will see is right now thi
on the right it's not an amnesty for an earned citizenship plan and limbaugh asked what all this means for some call the president's plan to obliterate the gop. >> on your first point about them beating us up for two years it is not an agreement. that's precisely why i thought it was important that the principles out there early. they can try to sell that but i doubt people are going to buy it. >> happening within the hour, president obama will arrive in vegas where just a few minutes ago, the white house confirmed the white house will embrace the senate plan unveiled yesterday this time and despite the headline in "washington post," quote, obama to announce his immigration reform plan said to be more liberal than the senate effort. our first read team calls that reporting outdated, writing, that it had the bipartisan senators not acted yesterday, you likely would have seen obama offer his own plan. but the senators did act and their plan is the plan. the last thing the white house wants to do is blow up this fragile coalition. congressman mario diaz balart out of florida. thank you for your ti
nothing. >> thanks to obama now you have amnesty unless you get convicted of a major felony. so i don't know that there's any stopping this. it's up to me and fox news and i think fox news has invested in this. >> john: it is not only immigration reform. they have worked tirelessly to protect us from equal rights for women and marriage equality and any kind of sensible gun control. thank you, rush for protecting us just like the oxy oxycontin flects you from the pain of being who you really are. comedian kevin mccaffrey editor and chief of the editor, tina dupuy and mr. christian finnegan. he says he and fox news are all that stands between obama's agenda and america. the sad question, isn't he kind of right? >> yeah. that's the definition of conservative right? someone who yells no more brown people. i think that's pretty much -- >> it already sounds like the worst avengers enough of all time. rush and fox news just keeping obama away from america. >> yes. rush and a recent immigrant rupert murdoch are going to keep us all safe from other immigrants. >> john: i hear them accusing oba
conservatives feel it's a top priority. a path to citizenship not quote/unquote amnesty and earned legal status. as i mentioned, marco rubio was on with rush limbaugh and rush posed this question to senator rubio that there are people who are now coming to this country basically because they want to live off the government. he compared them to people of emigrated to this country in the past, hard workers and now you have a group of people who essentially want to be on welfare. when you hear that notion, or that idea coming from the leading voice in the conservative party, your party, the republicans, what do you say that to? >> well, remember, an i respect anybody's point of view but he's not a member of our leadership. he's not a member of the house or the senate. he has the right, obviously, under the first amendment and we all appreciate that to say whatever he wants but we can deal with issues of making sure people who are here are not a charge on the public system. we can deal with those issues through legislative language. the question is this. do we want to solve what the american people
of that amnesty, a word that politically no one wants to use anymore. since then illegal immigration continued. fast forward to 2005. all congress and the bush administration could agree on was building one big fence. ana, why is today's immigration debate different than it was in 2005? >> i think the politics is different but also there's a national security component that was not there, you know, when reagan did his amnesty in 1986. it is now a national security imperative, christine, to know who is here, to bring them out of the shadows and also a national security imperative to secure the border. this is not optional. i think ron is completely right in what he's saying. you know, look, the democrats have a huge debt of latino voters and the republicans understand they have a huge need for latino voters and the combination of those two things are working for immigration reform. we are seeing in the immigration issue what we're not seeing on any other issue, which is there is a unique, independent congressional group on both sides, on the house and the senate. democrats and republicans that
and legalization. he signed amnesty. in late 1980s. it turned out amnesty was achieved. no enforcement. we now have 11 million new illegal immigrants. reagan said one of the biggest mission takes of his presidency. >> bret: the politics has changed, obviously. fox news poll asked the question about government policy toward illegal immigrants should be pathway to citizenship. 66%. there were hurdles that you had to get through. much like this bill. mara, the demographics are changing. >> the tem graphics are changing. everybody was unbelievably candid about this. i asked why now? why does vit a good chance of passage? john mccain and schumer and everybody. because of the election. when the republicans lose 3 to 1 with hispanic voters who are only going to be a larger share of the electorate they have to do something different. they decide to drop the opposition to what used to be called amnesty. now john mccain and marco rubio say we have de facto amnesty now. we want to get people legal and do in a fair way to people waiting in line. there is not a line for people who have no family in the united s
, which senator rubio and will be a part of this bipartisan group says we have a defacto amnesty. my hope is president obama will use the voice and influence to further this approach. however, if what he offers is a process for the undocumented that is more lenient and faster and unfair it won't bode well for reform. so senator rubio taking a critical stance of the president without the president actually laying out a plan and we know and you talk to folks on the radio all day, when you mention the word amnesty that is one of those fire words that is going to get a certain portion of this country pretty angry. >> it's true. it's in a category with guns and global warming and -- >> it is a loaded word, it is loaded. >> you got it. listen. the stakes are high for senator rubio because the consensus is he has his eye on 2016 or 2020 and to play a role on a group like this, with senator mccain, is fraught with some peril. i like the fact they're both involved. i like the fact that proceeding the president, you have a bipartisan approach compared to the president coming forth and saying here's
been pushing but will conservative republicans and voters think this program is amnesty and refuse to support it? it was a contentious of the presidential campaign and the die outchotomy defined not just the parties but the candidates. tomorrow the president heads to las vegas. here's a preview from his inaugural address. >> our journey is not complete until we find a better way to welcome the hopeful, striving immigrants who still see america as a land of opportunity. until bright young students and eng neerls are enlisted in the workforce rather than expelled from the country. >> let's start with luke rus effort on the hill. what are you hearing this time about what people on the hill are saying about this bill? kit get through? >> reporter: well, there's sort of two cliche things from capitol hill today, toure. number one, renewed optimism around the legislation. you heard senator menendez say it right before the program he's never been this confident before because there seems to be a bipartisan consensus moving forward. they view it as the right thing to
on the republican proposal, adamantly opposing amnesty. he says, this plan closely mirrors his alternative to the democratically backed. >> translator: to. >> principles, i think, are, quite frankly, very similar if not the same. is the reason why i signed on to this, and it is a pretty straightforward principle is as we have to modernize legal immigration, have a real enforcement mechanism to ensure we and every year in the future. lou: the senator will be here to give us his judgment on the plan and his role in leading the republican effort to win support about the senate and house of representatives. our first guest tonight says the gang of eight commemoration plant, immediate, unconditional and right amnesty, but the republicans after the last election will not oppose it any longer. joining us now, manhattan institute fellow, city journal contributing editor to matter it -- heather macdonald. outright amnesty. those used to be fighting words in this country. they are no longer such? >> well, it is called probationary status, which is a euphemism for amnesty. immediately grants probatio
, amnesty. >> i have not and will not support any blanket amnesty. >> i don't support amnesty. i don't support special benefits. >> essentially granting amnesty to many illegals is outrageous. >> and amnesty, and many of them need to be sent back. >> you will notice that ending with senator mccain which is interesting, because before he would support it. he was against it there, but before that he was for it. in 2005, he worked the late senator ted kennedy on an immigration bill that was backed by the bush white house and included what critics called amnesty, only then, mccain and others weren't calling it that. >> i think we're off to a good start on immigration reform. >> i'm not running to do the easy things, so i defend with no reservation our proposal to offer the people who harvest our crops, tend our gardens, work in our restaurants, care for our children, and clean our homes a chance to be lool citizens of this country. on the issue of illegal immigration a position which -- which -- a position which obviously still provokes the outspoken opposition of many conservatives, i s
by granting amnesty the senate proposal actually compounds the problem by encouraging more illegal immigration. our latest fox news poll shows 66% of americans say they do, indeed, support a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. but only if they take steps like paying back taxes, learning english and passing bad ground checks. cac is -- carl cameron is is on it on capitol hill this evening. calling it amnesty. >> the last time congress took um immigration reform twice during president bush's republican administration it was derailed out of complaints about amnesty. the idea being that illegal immigrants in this country would be allowed to stay and not have to be held accountable for the law that they have broken. that is the debate that's unfolding right now. and today the lead democrat of this measure, new york senator chuck schumer talked about it in terms that will have some concern for amnesty. opponents because, in effect. amp the hurtles are cleared. they would be allowed to stay. watch. >> immediately, when the bill passes. people who are here living in the shadows, would get a
we had a big amnesty bill in front of the senate, and, you know, i think the biggest problem, even though it does have republicans signing on is the fact that it's going to cost us over $2.6 trillion, the price tag of the last amnesty. when you give legal status to all of these illegal aliens, they, then, become eligible for food stamps, medicaid, medicare, social security, wick, all the other programs, and they contribute in so little in income and taking out so much in welfare it costs $2.6 trillion last time. lou: $2 trillion assumes illegal immigrants avail themselves of welfare. senator rubio says absolutely not. the bipartisan senators say absolutely not. let me give you the reaction to president obama's speech today, and then i want to turn to you. first, i want to take up senator rubio's comments. he said, "i am concerned by the president's unwillingness to accept significant enforcement triggers before current undocumented immigrants apply for a green card. without the triggers in place, enforcement systems are not implemented and back in a few years dealing with millions
're pitching is not blanket amnesty, would actually send 11 million illegal immigrants here to the back of the line of citizenship. what say you? >> same old song from the amnesty gang. i've been reporting on this issue for more than 20 years. i've said tirelessly that immigration is first and foremost a national security and enforcement issue. and if these politicians are truly committed to national security, border security, and enforcement, they wouldn't tether it in a politically expedient way to amnesty everytime they lose an election. are you hearing me, republicans, on this? it's very frustrating because we're supposed to be the party and the movement that supports the rule of law. instead of the 11 million illegal aliens do-we know that a bogus figure. probably upwardded of 20 million now. they've used that statistic for 15 years. instead of making it a priority for the 11 million illegals in the shadow, how about putting a priority on the law-abiding people in country who have been waiting in line the right way. shouldn't we value them? there's 4.6 million people who haveored t
, what's been created is a de facto amnesty. we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> a few of the bullet points, under the framework, those seeking citizenship would be required to register with the federal government, settle debts with the government including fines and back taxes, undergo a background check and learn english and american civics. yesterday, marco rubio in florida sought to win over conservatives opposed to any deal with threats of amnesty. >> there are over 11 million workers undocumented. that's not something any wanted to see happen. it is what has happened. we have an obligation and need to address the reality of the situation we face. i think today is an important first step in what's going to be a significant complicated journey. the issue of immigration is not a simple one. we have the opportunity to do it right and if we do, i think we'll do a tremendous service to our country. snow jo . >
for border security. but a lot of americans remember ronald reagan doing the dieal with amnesty and on the backside, border security. the amnesty came, but the border security never did. and i think now the situation is thus. we cannot be more adamant about making sure our border is secure. but we need to talk about a reasonable, rational way to let these these people in this country, assimilate into this culture, more than they already have, but as more citizen for this country. and to do anything but that right now creates a horrible position for republicans moving forward in any national or local election. >> hogahogan, you bring up the rhetoric. let's talk more about that, nia-malika. i want to play for everybody the rhetoric coming from the right a about the word amnesty. take a listen. >> no one should expect the members of the senate are just going to rubber stamp what a group have meant and decided. >> what heightens my concern is that we have history as a guide and history suggests this brand of so-called comprehensive immigration reform, this promise of enforcement, as
that is a disaster. basically just a rehash amnesty version of the. >> translator:. i think it is dead on arrival and am hopeful that republicans we will hold t line and resist amnesty. lou: well, i don't persally understand how we could not witness the republican party and democrats. the itsy backs, to be fair, does not provide for citizenship. provides a pathway, if you will, for legal status with some rather strict conditions. >> well, because amnesty is anything that gives the illegal alien what he is stolen from the united states, whch is a presence in the united states. >> kind of a child you. >> hold on. the edgy backed gives you basically a green card forever. permanent residence status forever. even though you don't get citizenship, you get to stay here forever. now, the question of stealing, if you are giving someone lawful presence wch they did not have to wait in line. lou: i have to get him in here. i appreciate you. time constraints. youreaction to bth of these legislative -- >> i mean, as a piece of legislation, of very solid step toward. practically zero unemployment. the house of
the same old same old combination of promises of enforcement with immediate amnesty. that has never worked before. best case of that is 1986 under president reagan. that was supposed to be the final amnesty. never have to look back. solve the problem. instead of solving the problem. it quadrupled the problem. >> you are right. that bill did not solve a lot of issues. these people are who are going to be given a period of probation. they may have to wait 15 years to become citizens. i don't see how that is amnesty. >> they are legal and a lot of benefits and rights kick in. their legal status can never be taken back. it is a matter of time when do they become citizens. maybe it will be a shorter period of time. >> michele, what is your response? senator vittner makes this sound like a bad thing. the republican party claims to be the free moarket of movement. they get it right in capital goods, but when it comes to labor everybothing is a problem and wrong. people should be allowed to come and go at they please. >> based on economic conditions. >> if you want to come into the country -- >> i
, amnesty. >> i have never will and never have supported efforts for blanket immigration amnesty. >> i don't support amnesty. i don't support special benefits. >> essentially, granding amnesty to many illegals is outrageous. >> amnesty. many of them need to be sent back. >> that ended with senator mccain. that's worth noting because before he was supporting a plan that would allow illegal immigrants already here to stay. you see there he was against it, but before then, he was for it. back in 20005, he worked with the late senator ted kennedy on an immigration bill that was backed by the bush white house. it would have included what critics call amnesty, only then they weren't calling it that. >> we're off to a good start on immigration reform. >> i'm not running to do the easy things, so i defend with no reservation, our proposal to offer the people who harvest our crops, tend our gardens, work in our restaurants, care for our children, and clean our homes a chance to be legal citizens of this country. >> on the issue of illegal immigration, a position which -- a position which obviously
. the sticking point is the a-word, amnesty. >> i will not and i will never support and never have and will never support any effort to blanket grant amnesty to any folks who have stayed in the country illegally. >> i don't support amnesty. i don't support special benefits. >> essentially granting amnesty to many illegals is outrageous. >> and amnesty, and many of them need to be sent back. >> you will notice that ending with senator mccain which is interesting, because before senator mccain would not support a plan for illegal immigrants to stay, you see, there he was against it, but before that, he was for it. in 2005, he worked the late senator ted kennedy on an imgration bill that was backed by the bush white house and included what critics called amnesty, only then, mccain and others weren't calling it that. >> i think that we are off to a good start on immigration reform. >> i'm not running to do the easy thing, so i defend with no reservation our proposal to offer the people who harvest our crops, tend our gardens, work in our restaurants, care for our children and clean our homes a chance
thing that's remarkable to me is previously republicans objected to anything classified as amnesty. they opposed the dream act because it's quote/unquote amnesty. are republicans changing their definition of what constitutes amnesty so that the amnesty is just a free ride with no sort of earned path? >> i think that it's possible that you're going to see people on both sides of the aisle avoid the term amnesty because it is so politically charged. but the idea that citizenship under any circumstances is a free path is just not accurate. the reality is that it's quite expensive at minimum and lengthy. so on average it's quite a lengthy process and once one becomes a legal permanent resident you have five to seven years to wait so i don't think that the idea that there is some sort of free and clear and easy sort of yellow brick road for people to move from undocumented status to being american citizens is quite accurate. >> janelle, the republicans that i've talked to have actually been looking at the plan that came out of the senate and have said that all looks good. the problem is
-called reform is a big amnesty program with no prospect of meanful immigration enforcement in the future -- [overlapping dialogue] -- >> jamie: hold on. >> everything the administration has done, everything the obama administration has done and people like senator durbin have done for four years has undermined any pressure for legislative action and policy, when we have talked about piecemeal reforms like marco rubio and an e-verify bill to get the americans the jobs that are available. the president opposed that. a stem package for high-tech visas -- not that we supported that -- but the president says, that's so popular, we want to attach an unpopular massive amnesty program -- in exchange for anything that is needed. >> jamie: let me have you weigh in here, francisco. have you a deal citizenship -- >> why is that so surprising -- [overlapping dialogue] >> conflict of interest. >> jamie: you have a different perspective than having lived in both countries and making your living here in this country. tell me, as someone who came to this country and made your life here, what you think th
are dead set against amnesty believes this is amnesty under another name. >> i'll give you a little straight talk. look at the last election. look at the last election. we are losing dramatically the hispanic vote, which we think should be ours for a variety of reasons. >> senator menendez said after a handful of meeting the senators agreed a pathway to citizenship must be part of any comprehensive plan. >> having a pathway to earned legalization is an essential element and i think that we are largely moving in that direction as an agreement. americans support it in poll after poll. secondly, latino voters expect it. third, the democrats want it and fourth, republicans need it. >> when it comes to immigration reform, everyone is eager to get ahead of everyone else. by rolling out this senate play today, senators can get ahead of the president who will give his first policy speech on immigration tomorrow. another senator who wants to get ahead of this story, senator marco rubio write, "my hope is president obama will use his voice and influence to further this approach. however, if w
republican congressman says this plan sounds a whole lot like amnesty. you don't like this bill. why? >> this is a plan we saw several years ago with the same individuals involved, so no surprise. they favored amnesty before, and they favored amnesty now. says quite frankly it will save taxpayers billions of dollars because they will have to fit the bill going to be benefits going to these. it will cost american worker thousands of jobs competing with individuals who they haven't had to compete with before and will drive down thei wages and encourage illegal immigration because people will figure it will be eligible for the honesty. we ought to be enforcing immigration laws and not rewarding those who break them. liz: is it that this is sically amnesty 2.0, the president reagan plan? what do you make of that? >> that is exactly what this is. they're relying upon this administration which has not been enforcing immigration laws so they decide they're going to enforce immigration laws and the provisions will always be tied up in court meanwhile amnesty will be implemented immediately.
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